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the foundation of this culture how have these values developed in germany what is it to live by the principles of unity justice and freedom and i want you to do more . original. starts october 21st on d w. 2 trying to frighten you know it's a fact what do you expect that it did to terry means white garment that that's what does it mean extreme right often it's not. the earthquake they expected would you mind letting me finish my sentences putting those. it's no secret that you're a populist and nationalist parties and gearing up to try to make
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a splash at the coming european elections but who's helping them we are nationalists we are socialists so we believe all over members we're all one with their own. vision and principle in respect of what this except you know used comfortable phrases like it's a club meant for the exchange of ideas from nationalist populist movements across you're talking strategy for bang and it's far more combative than that isn't it he called it gumming up the e.u. parliament in other words blocking your purpose is essentially destructive isn't a no it's to review not building you know you're breaking the way up we are reinforcing and rebuilding the preeminence of national what does he say he said the beating heart of the globalist project is in brussels if i drive the stake through the vampire the whole thing will start and dissipate well pretty self-important place we don't think we have one. we analyze the situation in the sense that
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the system like the us ultimately ends up imperialism a kind of imperialism i have confidence that the forces of democracy of real democrats in europe will be stronger than these autocrats and i hope they will because indeed there is a rise of populism in europe doesn't look like it doesn't well wait for the results of the 21000 elections and then we'll talk i know you did better in bavaria and you done a little better in your seat but there but they're very strong and they're very powerful and we will see whether they keep gaining strength and i doubt it we'll see it's the back seat particularly noticeable i know you said it consume 2013 if you're black go back and i want to stone me and to be a white country these were your words in turkey 13 television talk show here and we were roundly condemned by other politicians including the human rights group here in parliament 80 percent of stern and we had
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a there was apologists own 80 percent of estonians agreed with that statement so take it at least give a good result. and you would have been you would have won the elections you know win the elections you. did very well but i want to us about the stakes and this is not criticism what. he says. we will get to the racism issue what you want with all this crackdown on migrants you want to preserve your identity and son we want to preserve the italian and european identity we want to why it's all nationalist parties across europe you want to see more white nationalists are pushing that idea the dented tarion can't it's not a matter of white nationalist parties believe he's not a white nationalist party lorenzo's from tell ourselves he saw an identity conception of politics. waking all across europe. means white that that's why i
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said we are meeting was to protest to the european identity the european roots for example the european culture detail and culture but it is you that is giving to this identity. the. arrest of the blow up and that's not the meaning in any way that the league and our representatives are doing so we want to protect the cultural roots the christian roots of europe is not hard to work with you go around saying muslims equal threat was in a single thread over and over and that now some of the analog some people are going to react badly and some people are going to turn violent we want to keep the german in germination state and even the european union but we're talking about germany here we don't want to have that a muslim country we accept muslims there are a lot of muslims who are well integrated into our society who take place no problem
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everything's fine but what we do not want to accept is that islam is starting to have an impact on our social life and our public life on our. own show you're not addressing the point i wanted to make about this idea that was limbs are a threat to germany. muslims are spread to jews this is for example something what we are getting from the jewish community the jewish community isn't working in the new world let's face it the situation in venezuela could hardly be more complex the united states along with some 2 dozen countries is backing the new interim leader one russia and china support incumbent ridiculous. now we have france. spain germany and britain who have recognized the new interim leader as president how long can you go on with this people are defecting from the administration one of your colleagues venezuela
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ambassador to iraq defected accusing maduro of violating the constitution that is his right an air force general in the air force military attack in washington you know military fashion washington has gone how long can he hold on to you doesn't depend on that i mean a president doesn't hold or doesn't hold on because of foreign countries ask them or like them or not he's impoverished the country and he's subject to the massive repression well i think the limb here is to have the transition that is taking place continue to take place peacefully we met with the. we met with. one guy goes representative the new ambassador to the united states and one white go is the president of venezuela at the present time we believe strongly that the morning to you we believe strongly that the. that the venezuelan people
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should be commended for the way that they've handled this they used the rule of law to rep to remove. mr maduro is still there he's still venison would you mind letting me finish my sentence as plain as the international community is going to want wider recognition essentially i got it from inside the country that you know he absolutely does have it from inside the country said people on the streets that's not the same thing isn't what it what do you expect that people on the streets is power people on the streets it's love. people on the streets is support people on the streets as an expression i mean come come and go and the other in the crowd and her life her future and it can come and go well the people that are supporting. the girl are the rogues gallery in the world including the iranians. the the russians the north koreans
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pull frosting on mccain you know if he was his and said you don't think this is a stalemated situation it's not now all the countries that are liberal democracies that have the rule of law recognize our constitution and they recognize the legitimacy of one why they are that we are in a situation where a drug cartel has taken all the levers of power by the way doesn't mean you're going to succeed does it doesn't mean you're going to seizing die trying we have no option but to fight for our people i will fight for my people until i draw my last breath how long do you think president maduro can hold on now 6 years i hope. weeks of mass protest in hong kong show no sign of coming to an end but how long will beijing put up with you more than a few weeks ago a few days ago that if things got worse the chinese army might consider taking to the streets you said when there's trouble in hong kong when things turn sour
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there's violence in our history our fear is that if the police are now able to control what is happening here there's a remote risk the chinese army would get involved how remote is that risk if it's so out of the way why did you why did you mention no i hope you will never happen why did you mention if it was a remote risk trying to frighten people you know it's a fact everybody understands you you don't understand it. hong kong is a place where it has been operating is operating under the one country 2 systems it is a not very successfully is it calm it's a huge political compromise we are part of china under the basic law china has a responsibility to ensure that hong kong is stable everybody who is doing business here want to see hong kong to be stable all right so yes under the basic law there is provision for the the beijing government to interfere if nobody hoped that
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it would happen i'm trying to say that we are trying to of avoid this happening so i'm not insane in fear into people i'm simply reflecting what is stated in the basic law and what is the political reality of the situation of course we created size the hong kong government especially the council tried to establish a law which hong kong residents disagree and it doesn't trust so that the show you the latest carriage lasher that to you the chief executive you blame the carriage carry lam the chief exec she's beijing's appointing russian history she is the appointee even so-called elected by some hong kong representation is still there why is why hasn't she was more that's come from people as from people is there democracy in syria system we need we in hong kong need to gain the trust and confidence of beijing so that they can allow us the freedom of political reform what about the other way round what about beijing's
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duty to earn the trust of people in hong kong it was once part ways where they have managed you know the suspect has runs both ways only 2 years they have managed it's own about unfair and they've been doing of the most to try to win you know holes all show that people do not of the majority of people still do not identify something i don't advise although beijing and my national guard would have to work on them. everybody would come to work harder you think the people of hong kong should play nice to their masters in beijing i might throw the crumbs i do use only to use over the words the words i use is that we should communicate with each other and wish to instill confidence in each other that's what i'm saying while china is not using force to press down the demonstration why they compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove they can chant. this week convict zone is at the annual security conference in munich i mean plenty of recriminations and bad
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blood between europe and washington are you trying to tell me that europe has lived up to its commitments under nato is that what you're trying to tell me because believe me there is no belief or that on anybody's part that some of the european nations are not living up to their commitments and indeed look i've done this for 10 years i've come over here and tried to talk the nato countries into living up to their agreements they patted us on the head and said all well we're on track to try to do this or try to do that let me put it bluntly the problem is that many member states don't trust donald trump do this his commitment to nato and why should that i mean he's done everything he could to undermine trust that he's 100 percent behind it you know i haven't seen that clearly donald trump has shaken things up there's no question about it he's got most of it moved it is not my only allies to sit up and take notice because he was very concerned about the lack of of their
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burden sharing inside the alliance and he wanted allies to pay more in his inimitable way he got everybody to pay attention to the necessity of putting more money into their defense budgets chancellor angela merkel said last year that there were good reasons to continue fighting for the transatlantic relationship but we had it she added we can't count on it anymore. well i'm i'm sorry she feels like that we don't feel like that you know the house of representatives they had so little confidence in chumps intentions towards nato that last year they had to pass a law with bipartisan support stating that is u.s. policy to remain a member of nato predicating funs to be used to withdraw from the alliance so little confidence do they have in the president's commitment to nato her a i saw that as a great expression in washington of bipartisan support for nato and i saw it when we were there 10 days ago for the 70th anniversary nato is well supported across
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both sides of the aisle that's a great thing why why are you going off isaac and not by the president there are $200.00 countries in the world right the vast majority of them believe that proc obama's brand of leadership was far better than either george bush is or down trumps you see the curve go like this under obama and then like this under trump in europe and asia and latin america and africa and so we can talk about israel where president obama had very sharp differences with a right wing government led by bibi netanyahu but i don't think that it wasn't just it wasn't just the sharp differences there were deep contradictions in the middle east policy good that well we i mean you have a core belief in that you voted against the president to enter an israel this was rooted largely in the iran nuclear agreement and if we had to do it over again if the price of having a better relationship with israel was not having iran nuclear agreement and potentially going to war with iran that was not a price that we were going to pay all the latest polls show the french germans the
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british now regard the us as a greater danger to their interests than china would you regard as your prime danger how much blame do you think washington should take for that. well. sometimes events drive us in a direction that we shouldn't be driven. we. we don't feel the same way about our european. friends or were more like kerry you know there are a lot of recriminations these days to get over iran. in more regard to the round deal that europe continues to abide by surely one that you get out of well we didn't walk out of it the president states at that time barack obama entered into that agreement. over the objection of a lot of us it did not have the things in it that it needed to have and it was very weak it did indeed address one issue but i viewed the
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iran. deal as a deal to try to discipline the bad boy in the classroom that was doing 5 bad things they addressed one of them but they're interested a big one did they dress one of them a big one they have dressed one of them ben rhodes in the short time that we have left let's look ahead to the next presidential election next year. what kind of democratic party do you think is going to be capable of beating donald trump with his massive following is dominance of the airways is dominance of social media which proved so devastating in the last presidential election what kind of democratic vote is going to be able to i think out there on the back of the current but the massive following is 40 percent is the most unpopular us president to run for reelection in my life he sets the news agenda there is a very well then doesn't they dominate is that it takes a look at what. they're going to have to live with the world as it is or doesn't
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check the democratic party just routed down from republican party exit from the scene we've won 40 seats in the house yeah and won by the largest popular vote margin in the history of mid-term election the largest democratic victory in the house since watergate. voters in the european parliament elections have shaken out of the continent's politics turning away from the major power. blobs of the dominated brussels in recent years and boosting the smaller groupings the greens the liberals and the far right apparently european voters weren't so keen on the status quo in the more do you accept the share of the blame for the for the 1st voter participation has been very very high historically 51 percent more or less in medium in in all of europe but they don't like the status quo and i came out to say that but this is your general crediting legitimacy to european institutions shows that people start to understand how relevant to european union is and that it
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really affects their daily life and they future their one mark and ability they want more transparency i think they will ask much more participation for whoever is going to run europe in the future that's a nice way of spinning it isn't it the top jobs were carved up the kind of backroom stitch up that people were told wasn't going to happen again. and it did it did despite all these promises why you let the voters than not i mean 1st of all why do you speak about the backroom deal i mean it was so transparent. and all the process of the names in the game i think it was very very true not at all into the outgoing commission president he called it not very transparent quite an indictment from john burns it wasn't it's true but i don't have to agree with him on this point i think it's not the best process but it's the pros at this is right in the treaties people are losing faith to leave here's the paradox isn't the highest level of support for membership since $983.00 but more than half the people of europe think
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the is likely to collapse within a generation all the while for the 1st breath also the legacy is that our society is out of the chaos and implosion that unfortunately we have seen in the u.k. has been a vaccination rather than infection for the rest of europe we have seen so you should be stronger so as a result of that we have seen if i can finish my sentence do you're a barometer country after country you're planning on popularity has increased even him hungary with a few exceptions expect republic and we have seen one after the extreme right political parties dropping the agenda of leaving the european union and leaving the euro why all the doubts about whether the e.u. can actually stay together i mean spain's foreign minister yours a barrel was asked in the interview if it was so fragile if europe was so fragile it could break up his comment was honestly yes honestly yes yes so europe has always been growing start out of big crisis we were born out of the ashes of world
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war 2. and there we are it is that is one of the best places in the world to live we never had it so good in europe but voters are the they are very disappointed very disappointed and it was supposed to be about them you were seeing the turnout go down in every single election since the european elections started and this was the big push to rope more people in because they were going to be listened to and they weren't yes i mean the call it's a bit this is a big failure whichever way you like to spin it but it is a big factor i mean the publication of democracy representative democracy is what i'm talking about but the participation in the european elections has been raised also because of the better understanding of the citizens about the need of the because the expectation they might actually be listened to that's why they voted they were told it was going to be different let's just go back to europe and the new political landscape after the european elections the f.t. is joining me is identity and democracy group which is going to be the 5th largest
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group of european parliament not the 3rd largest which is what you're aiming for your party promises to be a thorn in the flesh of the stuff what does that mean she's going to block and disrupt create trouble now what we're trying to get out is the message that we're in favor of the european union and it has been set up by the founding fathers of the european union we're against the ever closer union we want to keep the server serenity of the nation states what we think is that democracy only functions within a nation state and we want to work together where it is necessary to do so but we do not want to move towards ever closer you know extreme right populist did not have. the earthquake they expected to have been actually have an earthquake of scandals and the liberal liberal conservative forces are stronger than previously
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the greens adventist the socialist collapsed the extreme left lost almost 50 seats 5 has ago there was no far right at all was there so you hold the door open for them during the last 5 years i think this is not the time for blame game me this is the time to sun for the truth isn't it time to look at what happened the achievements of the last 5 years back to reach a passing day it's come to mean aboard this united kingdom a more damaged weaker government the reason why was a very minor heart was never in leaving you i saw it as a current of damage limitation exercise when you say that she said she was quite concerned to deliver back that she promised on innumerable occasions to deliver back she failed and in the end i'm afraid we'll have to face well sure that the party lost confidence and so did the house of commons but there was a lot of ignorance on on belief side of course and that i mean even among some of the most visible campaigners like boris johnson for instance when he was questioned
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on t.v. last september turned out he didn't know that switzerland was in the single market and refused to accept it when he was told that was the quote i'm not responsible for what boris is the we voted to let your living breaks it and you hear this sort of nonsense come out why don't you say this is wrong we're british people deserve the referendum result to be implemented this is the truth and you told them i something they deserve and they don't deserve a whole lot of m.p.'s who say they accept the referendum results and they are campaigning against it you happy that boris johnson being ordered to appear in court over claims that he lied during the reverend well over this 350000000 pounds a week to be well the person he's done is an absolute on the line and i actually think that matter well yes of course it's why it doesn't have a bearing on the. merits of the camel is luck all senate well it does because clearly he's doing it from a particular perspective if the aim is to damage boris it will have precisely the
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opposite effect i do advise our european partners not to overplay their hand what you negotiator seem to obsess about is that britain must appear to lose no from this absolutely not i mean you have made it clear that leave leaving the e.u. is a mistake and that should become a self-fulfilling prophecy now now britain has to lose its loses britain has to lose and you play the part but that again is a lunacy i mean. no we just say that membership of the european union has benefits and of course if you're not pamper you don't enjoy those benefits it's not punishment it just statement of fact the was the largest trading group in the world they hold all the cards it's their club the only thing they will decide what rules apply should you wish to take advantage of some of the. privileges on offer. with that club i think but i thought we had in our manifesto 18 months or so ago it was that we wanted to create a comprehensive training arrangement with them and they've agreed on the use of
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command in every one of those would be japan i'd be quite happy just to replicate the terms of that you've been saying that no deal is increasingly attractive but that's not what you and your folk leave colleagues promised the country was it time and again they promised great deals with the you and everyone else and said they just fall into britain slapped turns out to be a student well. i have to confess that i think it's in the european union's interests to strike a sensible free trade deal with the united kingdom and whether we make that agreement before we leave which looks rather unlikely or after we leave i believe that that's what will happen but in the end my point is that really broken promises were well worth the vote leave campaign didn't make promises we were campaigning it's your presumption that there will be maybe a crash out without a b. but it's not said the deal is on the table in the u.k. and the next prime minister can still subscribe to it or make propositions how we can improve it.
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this is g.w. news laudrup from berlin tonight on a mission to stop the fighting a u.s. delegation heads to turkey in hopes of a ceasefire in northern syria turkish president richard firebird of one says he will meet with u.s. vice president mike pence and u.s. secretary of state on period but he will not in his anti kurdish assault also coming up tonight how close to a deal are the u.k. and the european union negotiated years appear to be on the brink of a no weapons our work or exit or.


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